Church Without Walls, Berkeley is led by a Board of Elders, a small group of men and women who oversee CWOW’s ministry and staff. Each year, the elders are presented to the members of the congregation for approval for the following ministry year.

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2022-23 Elder Team

Deanna Chow Trotter
Deanna joined CWOW as a young college graduate over 20 years ago. She is currently a member of a Life Group, the Prayer Ministry and Teaching Team, and a co-leader of the Racial Justice leadership Team. In her free time, she can be found in line for tasty local eats, cheering (loudly) for the Golden State Warriors, and waiting for the next Wordle!
Abby Jensen
Abby has attended Church Without Walls since she was 11, where she found a community that made her excited to learn about Jesus. As an adult member of the church, she has led many a life group, served on prayer ministry, been on the preaching team, and as a young queer millennial, is proud to represent the perspective of queer Christians at CWOW. In her free time, she enjoys drawing, sewing, and taking solo trips to the beach.
Wes Reed
Erin Schweng
Erin has been a member of Church Without Walls since it all began twenty-plus years ago. Over the years, she has served as a small group/life group leader, prayer team member, and was Chair of the elder team that saw CWOW through its last transition to a permanent pastor from 2013-2015. She lives in Castro Valley, and spends a fair amount of time on her new pandemic hobbies of birding and going for walks, which happen to make a nice combination.
Gustavo Smok
Passionate about serving vulnerable communities, Gustavo is a Social Worker for the SF Family & Children's Services Department. After arriving in the Bay Area in 2005, he felt immediately at home at CWOW, where he currently serves on the Pastoral Care Team and as a Godly Play teacher. Ask him about South America, mountain biking, soccer, Chile and Latin America.
John Winkleman
John joined CWOW in 2000 out of a strong desire to commit to community life and spiritual growth. Since then, John has served as a life group leader, a scripture reader, and a children's ministry volunteer. He lives in Berkeley, works for a digital marketing agency, and helps with a local Scout troop. John enjoys hiking, skiing, and the occasional walk through the Berkeley Marina at sunset.
Anne Park Grant
Executive Director
Phil Oswald
Transition Pastor

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